Creating Effective Flow And Collaboration In Your Life with Cathy and Gary Hawk

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Working in collaboration with others takes skill and attention: often it will include changing our mindset. One of the most effective ways of moving with ease in all your life’s endeavors, whether it is a solitary path or it is in collaboration with others, is to learn how to read the energetic clues in both yourself and others. This can apply to working in teams with people or being in a committed relationship. In this dialogue we explore the perils and pitfalls of partnering as well as how to improve our skills to help our partnerships thrive. Cathy and Gary Hawk talk about many states of consciousness that may seem in the moment quite negative. However, when we expand our view by calling on a positive feeling such as curiosity, often we can creatively turn what stops us toward new possibilities. Cathy gives advice on how to turn confusion into something positive. She says, “It’s normal to get stuck. So go back and be as creative as you can be . . . I think one way to go through confusion is to go to excitement and ask the question, ‘what would excite me?’” They propose that we are the directors of our own play and as directors we can choose where to point our attention and focus in order to be effective and get the results we are looking for in our life. (hosted by Justine Willis Toms) 


Cathy Hawk is founding director of Get Clarity International and Gary Hawk is Managing Director. They are experts in human energy systems and have mentored and consulted with thousands of individuals and business leaders to turn human energy into peak experience and peak performance. Cathy and Gary do this by helping their clients gain clarity of purpose, a refreshed vitality and a riveting focus on creating what’s next in their life and work. As thought and action leaders in personal transformation, the Hawks are principals in Clarity International, a consulting and leadership firm based in Colorado. Their unique Get Clarity retreats and Clarity Circles were created to provide a process where individuals and leaders can explore, refresh, invigorate, and clarify the vision of what they want to create - the vision that drives the energy and actions of them and their people. 

Cathy and Gary Hawk are the coauthors of:

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Topics Explored in This Dialogue

  • What was the process of modeling collaboration as they wrote the book
  • What is “above the line” and “below the line” thinking
  • How asking the question “What’s different?” improves discernment
  • How to do a personal check-in
  • Why we are not responsible for another person’s energy
  • Why looking for someone to “complete me” is faulty thinking
  • Why it is important to notice our own personal field of vision as different from a shared field of vision
  • Why making a collaborative vision board is useful
  • What is an example of working in collaboration with someone with whom your personality clashes
  • What are examples of high performing partnerships and teams
  • Why focusing on what is not working will take us to what we don’t want
  • Why embracing the process of chaos can serve creativity
  • What can be done when resistance is present in a project, group, or relationship
  • What to notice to be more effective when we are at the threshold of a choice point 

Host: Justine Willis Toms          Interview Date: 9/20/2018          Program Number: 3660

Music Playlist

From Album: Dorothea Lange - Grab a Hunk of Lightning (Original Soundtrack)
Artist: Jami Sieber & Evan Schiller 

Opening Essay: Track 03 – Rush of Migration
Music Break 1: Track 04 – As A Teenager
Music Break 2: Track 06 – That’s All
Music Break 3: Track 07 Hwy 99