Walking The Indigenous Way In Contemporary Times with Leslie Gray, Ph.D.

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How do you find balance and inner peace in a world rocked by instability? In the telling of her story, shamanic psychologist Leslie Gray speaks to the importance of learning from our past, and takes us on a journey to an indigenous world where the earth is honored and people live together in peace on Turtle Island. She encourages Euro-Americans to “walk the ground, walk on the bones of your ancestors. Once you’ve done that and know where your people come from you can finally have real respect for the land here and the aboriginal traditions.” Gray reminds us that the roots of the American Constitution and our democracy are found in the Iroquois Confederacy, a continuing tradition which, from the beginning, embraced equal rights and forbade slavery. She urges us to visit sustainable indigenous communities not to take, but to learn and give back. (hosted by Michael Toms)


Leslie Gray, Ph.D. is a Native American psychologist in private practice in San Francisco, California and is executive director and founder of the Woodfish Institute which promotes traditional knowledge in original ways. She is an Associate of the Milton Erickson Institute of the Bay Area. She has taught ecopsychology and cross-cultural shamanism internationally. Her work is a blending of ancient and modern healing modalities and has been featured in numerous publications including Re-Vision Journal, East West Journal and the Sierra Club Books anthology, Ecopsychology: Restoring the Earth, Healing the Mind.

She has co-edited the following book:

Topics Explored in This Dialogue

  • How shamanic counseling can benefit you
  • How you can learn from and be more involved with indigenous peoples
  • Learn about the common threads that permeate all shamanic cultures
  • Find out about the first incident of germ warfare in the U.S.
  • How to meet a Native American shaman

Host: Michael Toms      Interview Date: 1/25/2002      Program Number: 2909

Music Included

From Album: Medicine Wheel
Artist: Numkena
Singers Spring Hill Music #JHM-1015

From Album: Under One Sky: Native American Flute & Rhythm
Artist: various
2001 Para Recordings/Red Feather Music RFP 7004

From Album: Warrior of the Heart
Artist: Verdell Primeaux and Johnny Mike
2001 Jai Cafe Productions/Red Feather Music RFP 7001-2
Track - Peyote Love Song