The Sacred Purpose of America with Glenn Aparicio Parry, Ph.D.

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Parry tells us how the Acoma Pueblo pottery makers use traditional methods by bringing shards of old pots from the past into the present in making new pots. This joins the past and the present in an original creation of timeless beauty. In this deep dialogue we explore original politics and the joining of ancient wisdom repurposed for today to create a new wholeness. We explore some of the rich and sometimes unknown American history and the Native American influence on the founding of the United States. He writes, “It cannot be overstated how radical the American experiment was. It was a complete break from any Western government of its day and while in some respects it hearkened back to ancient Greek democracies it was uniquely American due to the influence of Native America.” Here we take a deep dive on how putting our country back together in full integrity requires us to remember and respect the living roots of our nation's founding. His philosophy goes along with the Indian sage Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) who when asked, “How should we treat others?” Replied, “There are no others.” Parry says, “Ultimately, that is the reason why I'm even interested in politics. It is a means of understanding how human beings interact so that we can get to love, so that we can get to more kindness and compassion, and respect for Mother Earth. (hosted by Justine Willis Toms) 


Glenn Aparicio Parry, Ph.D. is an educator, international speaker, entrepreneur, and visionary whose life-long passion is to re-form thinking and education into a coherent, cohesive whole. He's the founder and past president of the SEED Institute, and is currently the president of the think tank The Circle for Original Thinking. Parry organized and participated in the groundbreaking Language of Spirit Conferences from 1999 - 2011 that brought together Indigenous Native Elders and Western scientists in dialogue. This series of conferences was moderated by Leroy Little Bear. Parry is an avid outdoorsman and makes his home in the foothills of the Sandia Mountains in Albuquerque, NM, with his wife, dog, and cat. 

Glenn Aparicio Parry is the author of: 

  • Original Thinking: A Radical ReVisioning of Time, Humanity, and Nature (North Atlantic Books 2015)
  • Original Politics: Making America Sacred Again (Select Books 2020) 


  • The Circle for Original Thinking

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Topics explored in this dialogue include: 

  • How Parry took a train trip and ended up in the dining car with three people who represented a cross-section of American viewpoints that formed the basis of his book
  • How America’s original sin is based on slavery
  • How the Haudenosaunee people, around 1132 AD, formed the Iroquois Confederacy and stopped warring between their tribes
  • How the thirteen arrows came to be part of the Great Seal of the United States
  • How founding documents, the Articles of Confederation, were borrowed from Native America
  • Where did the founding fathers go wrong in leaving out key ideas from Native America
  • How nature was always included in “all our relations” in Native culture
  • How White male supremacy was present at the very beginning of the founding of the United States
  • Why being addicted to economic growth is part of the agenda of both Republican and Democrat parties
  • What Barack Obama and Abraham Lincoln have in common
  • How we are in a new era of backlash to Obama’s Presidency
  • How Trump is a catalyst for revealing of the American shadow
  • How two healthy political parties are good for the nation and can compliment one another
  • What are Listening Circles

Host: Justine Willis Toms   Interview Date: 2/19/2021   Program Number: 3728

Music Playlist

From Album:  Desert Dance
Artist: R. Carlos Nakai
1990 Ancient Harmonies #13033-2

Opening Essay: Track 02 Pollen Pathway
Music Break 1: Track 04 Spirit Valley
Music Break 2: Track 03 Ancient Voices
Music Break 3: Track 11 Land of Emergence