The Unpredictable, Benevolent, Brilliant Revolution with Rob Brezsny

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"Heaven on earth is a place where you never know what's going to happen. It's this grand adventure, this dizzying series of interesting surprises, and you never really reach the end. But that's the joy in it." So speaks Rob Brezsny, a self-acclaimed "perpetrator of sacred uproar" who revels in the limitless possibilities in the chaos that surrounds us. He envisions a world where each of us is a "rapturist," stealing one another's pain and spreading outrageous joy everywhere. Mr. Brezsny's words are thrilling and heady, but somehow also grounded in the reality of everyday life. Like all of us he's struggled to turn heartache and anger into life lessons, and offers real-world strategies for opening the door to the universe's benevolent guidance and boundless happiness. He believes that cultural and global collapse and resurrection are now happening simultaneously, and suggests that each of us is responsible for creating the future with our own brand of creativity, benevolence, and unpredictability. (hosted by Justine Willis Toms)


Like Timothy Leary and Robert Anton Wilson, Rob Breszny has been named "cultural shaman" by He is the founder of Beauty and Truth Lab and the author of the widely syndicated astrology column "Free Will Astrology."

His books include:

  • Images Are Dangerous (Jazz Press 1985)
  • Televisionary Oracle (North Atlantic Books 2000)
  • Pronoia Is the Antidote for Paranoia: How the Whole World Is Conspiring to Shower You With Blessings (Frog Ltd/Blue Snake 2005)

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Topics Explored in This Dialogue

  • Why despair is lazy
  • Why surprises are a source of joy
  • How "pronoia"-the antidote to paranoia-can turn tragedies into gifts
  • How spectator consciousness may be limiting your ability to effect change
  • Why creativity thrives on chaos
  • How you can invite the universe to tell you what you need to know next
Host: Justine Willis Toms      Interview Date: 12/9/2005      Program Number: 3125