The Hard-Won Wisdom Of A Journey From Hopelessness To Spiritual Transformation with Karen Casey, Ph.D.

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Karen Casey at 84 years old is considered the godmother of women’s recovery books and is a leading voice in the art of compassion, acceptance, creativity, and mindfulness. She started her addiction recovery journey in 1974 and on her road to recovery from alcohol and drugs she joined Al-anon and then AA. However, even after 18 months of being sober she felt a profound emptiness and deep despair. It was then she experienced a literal angel knocking on her door which moved her from the potential of committing suicide to a path of discovering how God is present on the other side of the abyss of depression and despair. She shares how she connected with the Higher Power that has served as her guide ever since. She says, “I've come to believe so completely that it doesn't matter to God if we're not aware of him or her.” She later discovered A Course in Miracles. Here we’ll be exploring the lessons and wisdom she has learned and has shared with literally millions through her books, lectures, and webinars. Her insights are reminders of what we inherently know but need to rediscover for ourselves again and again. She inspires us to create a life of love and peace. (hosted by Justine Willis Toms) 


Karen Casey, Ph.D. received her doctorate in philosophy with an emphasis on Native American studies. She’s an accomplished author with over two dozen books and is the 2007 winner of the Johnson Institute American Honors Recovery Award for her contribution to the field of recovery. Karen’s focus as a writer and spiritual teacher is to strengthen our connection to a Higher Power, which is the invisible source of inspiration, guidance, strength, and wisdom available to each of us. 

Karen Casey’s books include: 

  • Each Day a New Beginning: Daily Meditations for Women (40th anniversary edition, Hazeldon 2022)
  • 52 Ways to Live the Course in Miracles: Cultivate a Simpler, Slower, More Loved-Filled Life. (Conari Press 2016).
  • Let Go Now: Embraced Detachment As a Path to Freedom (Conari Press 2022) 

To learn more about the work of Karen Casey go to www.womens– 

Topics explored in this dialogue include: 

  • How Casey came to Al-Anon
  • What is codependence and how we hold others as hostages
  • What is the purpose of Al-Anon and who does it serve
  • Casey’s story of how she began to learn about meditation
  • How being sober was not enough for her well-being
  • How Casey was inspired by Fr. Dr. Matthew Fox’s book The Musical Mystical Bear
  • How an angel showed up for Casey as she was about to commit suicide
  • How angels come into our lives
  • How her out-of-body experience with a professor made Casey completely rewrite her dissertation
  • What is the struggle between our ego and our Higher Power
  • What is the Chinese analogy of how water is so powerful because it is perfectly nonresistant
  • What is the significance of Aesop’s Fable of Hercules and the Apple
  • How we can refocus our energies and personal gifts when we feel we have no power to make a difference
  • How every act of kindness multiples 

Host: Justine Willis Toms   Interview Date: 5/19/2023   Program Number: 3790

Music Playlist

Album: Fresh Impressions
Artists Georgia Kelly & Steven Kindler
1987 Out Front Music #OFM 1010

Opening Essay: Track 01 Sicilienne
Music 1: Track 01 Sicilienne (continued)
Music 2: Track 05 Gnossienne #2
Music 3: Track 08 Gymnopedie pour l'enfant endormi