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"If words come out of the heart they will enter the heart, but if they come from the tongue, they will not pass beyond the ears." These are the words of a Sufi mystic, and express the essential core of Sufism--approaching God through the heart. James Fadiman and Robert Frager explore the depth and breadth of this rich and complex 1500-year-old tradition, describing the beauty, wisdom, sensuality and humor they have found in their studies spanning the past two decades. They discuss what Sufism has in common with other religions, and what sets it uniquely apart. (hosted by Michael Toms)
James Fadiman Ph.D. is a former president of the Institute of Noetic Sciences, a professor of psychology and one of the foremost researchers in micro-dosing studies. He's the author of many books and is cofounder of the Sophia University, rooted in transforming the transpersonal. He's been researching healthy multiplicity for more than 20 years.
James Fadiman's books include:
Robert Frager, Ph.D., is a founder and past President of the Institute of Transpersonal Psychology. He has taught psychology and religious studies at the University of California (Santa Cruz and Berkeley) and is a sheikh in the Halveti-Jerrahi Sufi Order. He is also a practicing psychologist and a seventh-degree black belt in Aikido.
Robert Frager’s books include:
They are co-editors of:
Host: Michael Toms Interview Date: 11/20/1997 Program Number: 2684
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