Emotional Alchemy with Tara Bennett-Goleman, M.A. and Daniel Goleman, Ph.D.

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We all have coping strategies that let us adapt to adversity. Yet as we grow older these thought patterns are no longer needed and we can even pay a price if we continue to use them. According to Tara Bennett-Goleman, such thought patterns are what she calls schemas – hidden mental habits that shatter our peace of mind. “Schemas obscure the clarity and spaciousness of our true nature,” says Tara. With over 20 years of study with Buddhist masters from Tibet, Nepal and Burma, Tara takes what she learns to the next level by combining it with a scientific structure based on cognitive therapy and neuroscience – the perfect balance between fact and faith. In this dialogue she and her partner, Daniel Goleman, explore schemas and relate how to use emotional alchemy to change shadows and confusion of the mind into clarity and how to use mindful investigation to see things as they are rather than as we think they are. Their own relationship has grown more loving because of the schema work they have been doing. “When you understand your emotional patterns, you take things much less personally,” says Daniel. The Golemans point out that many times we may unwittingly be attracted to partners who trigger our schemas and the antidote, says Tara, “is mindfulness, which involves being aware of our emotions without being ruled by them.” (hosted by Michael Toms)


Tara Bennett-Goleman, M.A. is a psychotherapist and international workshop leader who has offered seminars on the synthesis of mindfulness and cognitive therapy.

Tara Bennett-Goleman is the author of:

Daniel Goleman, Ph.D. is an internationally known psychologist who lectures frequently to professional groups, business audiences, and on college campuses. As a science journalist Goleman reported on the brain and behavioral sciences for The New York Times for many years. Apart from his books on emotional intelligence, Goleman has written books on topics including self-deception, creativity, transparency, meditation, social and emotional learning, ecoliteracy and the ecological crisis. He currently co-directs the Consortium for Research on Emotional Intelligence in Organizations at Rutgers University.

Daniel Goleman’s books include:

To learn more about the work of Daniel Goleman go to www.DanielGoleman.info.

Topics Explored in This Dialogue

  • How you can use emotional alchemy to transform
  • What are the ten most crippling emotional patterns
  • What are schemas and how can they cause havoc in your everyday life
  • How to use interpersonal mindfulness to transform destructive relationship patterns
  • How Buddhist principles can be practically applied in daily life
  • Discover the neurological "magic quarter second" and how it can be used to dispel destructive thoughts

Host: Michael Toms      Interview Date: 3/14/2001      Program Number: 2864

Music Included

From Album: Awakening
Artist: Joseph Curiale
1997 Black Box Music 1050 #7155-2
Track - The Multiples of One

From Album: Instrumental Imagery Volume 3
Artist: Mehdi
2000 #SM-1003
Track - Star Gazer

From Album: The Bach Variations - A Windham Hill Sampler
Artist: Alex de Grassi
1994 Windham Hill #01934-11150-2
Track - Prelude from Cello Suite #1

From Album: Air & Ground
Artist: LAGQ/Los Angeles Guitar Quintet
2000 Sony #SK 89100
Track - Along the Edge