Your Voice as a Sacred Instrument and Guide with Vasavi Kumar

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How we talk to ourselves matters. It sets the tone for every experience in our life. Kumar suggests that when we, in truth, speak out loud the words that swirl relentlessly in the fog of our minds, so also will deep healing take place. It’s her understanding and experience that our voice is a sacred instrument that is a powerful guide in releasing emotions, traumas, and difficult memories that are stored in our body. It can also be dramatically effective in transforming our lives in meaningful ways. As we start speaking to ourselves out loud with kindness and curiosity, our body will loosen up and speak back to us. This deep dialogue explores how to go about practicing this compelling process that has infinite implications for our well-being. (hosted by Justine Willis Toms) 


Vasavi Kumar is a first generation Indian American, a life coach and licensed therapist who holds degrees in social work and special education from Hofstra and Columbia Universities. She runs the Say It out Loud Safe Haven community for coaches, creatives, and entrepreneurs. 

Vasavi Kumar is the author of:

  • Say It out Loud: Using the Power of Your Voice to Listen to Your Deepest Thoughts and Courageously Pursue Your Dreams. (New World Library 2023) 

To learn more about the work of Vasavi Kumar go to 

Topics explored in this dialogue include: 

  • What is the process of talking to yourself out loud
  • What are examples of the different parts of ourselves that might be invited to speak to us
  • How do we get stuck in the addiction of needing approval
  • Why is it more effective to do this process in front of a mirror
  • Why it is important to give these different parts of yourself your own name, for example: Vulnerable Vasavi
  • How our triggers are more than psychological, they live in our bodies
  • What is an example of a breakthrough when a client spoke something out loud
  • Why it is important to be as curious about your reaction to some trigger as it is to focus on the trigger itself
  • How to deal with a repeated emotion such as regret
  • Why we need to go past forgiving ourselves and dig more deeply in order to heal ourselves
  • Why the gift of pausing, stillness, and silence can lead us to the gift of presence
  • How saying something out loud to yourself is the first order of manifesting your dream
  • Why it is important to say something out loud no matter how silly or impossible it might sound
  • What are examples of the power of our inner voice
  • Why we should not shut down our inner-critic
  • How, with freedom, comes uncertainty 

Host: Justine Willis Toms   Interview Date: 7/7/2023   Program Number: 3791

Music Playlist

From Album: Medicine Music
Artist: Bobby McFerrin
1990 EMI #CDP-7-92048-2

Opening Essay: Track 03 You, You
Music 1: Track 04 The Garden
Music 2: Track 09 Angry
Music 3: Track 05 Common Threads