Exploring the Multidimensional Universe of Alien Encounters with Mark Gober

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Are we alone? Are we being influenced by nonhuman intelligences? Do UFOs, near-death experiences, and alien abductions exist? Are we in a battle between Good and Evil and is our future as a civilization at stake? Are there more than one species of aliens contacting humans? Have aliens been around for thousands of years? Here an avid researcher has brought reports of many studies that have been done with thousands of people who have experienced the phenomenon of alien contact. When asked if nonhuman intelligence is real Gober says, There is a lot of research out there suggesting that we are not alone, and this is probably an ancient phenomenon. There are people who do seem to have pretty amazing encounters.” (hosted by Justine Willis Toms) 


Mark Gober is an avid curator and researcher of scientific papers and books about consciousness, biological processes, psychic phenomena, near-death experiences, and quantum physics. He was a partner at the Sherpa Technology Group in Silicon Valley, California, which advises technology companies on mergers and acquisitions. He has also worked as an investment banker analyst in New York and has been named one of IAM’s strategy 300 (IAM hosts the world’s leading intellectual property strategists). Gober graduated magna cum laude from Princeton University where he wrote his award-winning thesis on Daniel Kahneman’s Nobel Prize-winning “Prospect Theory” and was elected a captain of Princeton’s Division I Tennis Team. 

Mark Gober is the author of several books including: 

  • An End to Upside Down Thinking: Dispelling the Myth That the Brain Produces Consciousness, and the Implications for Everyday Life (Waterside Productions 2018)
  • An End to Upside Down Liberty: Turning Traditional Political Thinking on Its Head to Break Free from Enslavement (Waterside Productions 2022)
  • An End to Upside Down Contact: UFOs, Aliens, and Spirits—and Why Their Ongoing Interaction with Human Civilization Matters (Waterside Productions 2022) 

To learn more about the work of Mark Gober go to www.markgober.com

Topics explored in this dialogue include: 

  • What are the reported experiences of a diversity of alien species: Praying mantis types, small greys, tall Nordic
  • Are alien beings here for humankind’s benefit or enslavement
  • How there may not be a monolithic agenda for the different species of aliens
  • Why discernment is critical for humanity whether the entities want to help or hurt humanity
  • How the hybrid aliens may be conducting classrooms in order to fit in with human culture
  • Some of the researchers in alien contact are John Mack, M.D., Harvard University; David Jacobs, Ph.D., Temple University; David Hawkins, M.D., Ph.D.
  • How the Golden Rule applies to all traditional religions
  • How the light is always there and only partially obscured by darkness
  • What is the evidence that alien intelligence has been around for many thousands of years
  • Who are the Mami Wata people in Ghana
  • What did Nobel prize winning physicist, Frances Crick have to say about aliens and the manipulation of DNA
  • How aliens in ancient times might have been called angels, gods, fairies, devils or elves
  • Harvard Pulitzer Prize winning author and professor John Mack MD did credible research on alien abductions
  • How aliens are able to shape shift
  • How the book Flatland written by Edwin Abbott explains why it may be difficult to perceive nonhuman intelligences
  • How research into psychedelics shows how the brain is a filter system and when the filter is turned off we have a greater capacity for perceiving non-ordinary reality
  • What are some reports of out of body experiences
  • What are some of the credible reports of UFO sightings
  • What is the evidence of a Galactic Federation
  • The FREE Study run by Ray Hernandez examined over 3000 people who claim to have had UFO type encounters
  • How some people report being abducted by aliens as a positive experience and some report it as a negative and horrific one
  • What did the Nag Hammadi Scrolls have to say about the nature of the Rulers 

Host: Justine Willis Toms   Interview Date: 11/4/2022   Program Number: 3779

Music Playlist

From Album:  Oxygene
Artist: Jean Michel Jarre

 Opening Essay: Oxygene, pt. 1
Music Break 1:  Oxygene, pt. 2
Music Break 2:  Oxygene, pt. 3
Music Break 3:  Oxygene, pt. 4