Creating The New Dream And The New Future Of The Earth with Elisabet Sahtouris, Ph.D.

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We are facing three simultaneous crises in the world today: crises in energy, economy, and climate. These add up to the greatest challenge in all human history. Biologist Elisabet Sahtouris is optimistic about the future and pointing to biology she says, “Life gets creative in a time of crisis.” She explains how the survival of bacteria, which have been on the planet for over four billion years, has given us a model of how we may evolve into a mature species. In the best case scenarios in evolution there is a move towards cooperation and co-creation. She points out, “It is literally cheaper to feed your enemies than to kill them. And, in the best case scenario in evolution, those cooperative ventures become the next larger unity.” Join this fascinating conversation that gives us sound science and hope for our species and life on the planet. (hosted by Justine Willis Toms)


Elisabet Sahtouris, Ph.D.  is an internationally acclaimed evolution biologist, futurist and author.

Her books include:

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Topics Explored in This Dialogue

  • What was the first crisis in evolution of life of earth
  • Why is debt money not sustainable
  • What is the cyclical maturation process in nature
  • Why is diversity an imperative in nature and in human culture
  • What is the difference between the new consciousness science and materialist science
  • Why it is important to know the basic assumptions as represented by different scientists from a variety of cultures
  • How we can reverse the desertification of the planet

Host: Justine Willis Toms      Interview Date: 10/30/2011      Program Number: 3417

Music Playlist

From Album: Paul Winter: Greatest Hits (Special Edition)
Artist: Paul Winter
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Music Opening Essay: Track 09 Cathedral Pines
Music Break 1: Track 03 Harvest Faire
Music Break 2: Track 10 Dancing Particles
Music Break 3: Track 12 Wolf Eyes

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