The Masculine Road: The Red, White And Black with Robert Bly

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"You don't make a boy into a man simply by feeding him a certain kind of food," says Bly, as he describes the three necessary and sequential life phases symbolized by three colors - the "red, white and black" - in the Grimm Brothers' fairytale "Iron John." Bly casts a penetrating light on these male life stages, describing complications that arise, for example, when a boy skips the red and goes directly to the white. He also discusses how these stages, when fulfilled, affect men's relationships with women. (hosted by Michael Toms)


Poet, translator and teacher, Bly is the author of many books, including:

To learn more about the work of Robert Bly go to

Host: Michael Toms       Interview Date: 3/8/1991        Program Number: 2244