What Really Matters with Robert Augustus Masters, Ph.D.

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Masters says, "I see anger as the guardian of boundaries. I see a lot of people caught in spiritual bypassing as having such poor boundaries they cannot say a clear no. They are overly attached to being nice, and sweet, and go to look positive. There is this addiction to being positive. And, they are, in a sense, being negative about their negativity." Besides anger, Masters talks about how our resistance to pain makes the pain worse. He suggests we soften around the pain, which can begin to remove the drama around our suffering. How can we develop the skill to create some room around pain? The answer to this and many other questions serve as the focus of this deep dialogue. (hosted by Michael Toms)


Robert Augustus Masters holds a doctorate in psychology and is an experienced psychotherapist, trainer of psychotherapists, and teacher of spiritual deepening. His integral, intuitive work blends the psychological and physical with the spiritual, emphasizing embodiment, authenticity, deep shadow work, emotional openness and literacy, and the development of relational maturity.

His books include:

To learn more about the work of Robert Masters go to robertmasters.com or www.masterscenter.net.

Topics Explored in This Dialogue

  • What is spiritual bypassing
  • What is metaphysical valium
  • What is clean anger
  • What is "Intuitive, Integral Work"
  • How does softening the heart allow for room for different qualities to enter
  • How do men and women respond differently to shame
  • What is blind compassion versus fierce compassion
  • How can we calm our judgmental mind
  • What is "magical thinking" and why is it unhealthy

Host: Michael Toms   Interview Date: 11/23/2010   Program Number: 3392

Music Playlist

From Album: Planet Passion
Artist: Ancient Future
2001 Ancient Future Music AF 2010

Opening Essay: Track 01 Simsimay Panima
Music Break 1: Track 04 I Met Her In the Medowe, b
Music Break 2: Track 05 Ocean of Love
Music Break 3: Track 05 Ocean of Love (reprise)

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