This Playful Universe with Stephan Martin

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What is the universe? Would it startle you to know that even the experts haven't a clue? Stephan Martin tells us that ninety-six percent of the universe is dark matter we can't see and don't understand. He sat down with leading physicists, spiritual leaders, and cultural creatives to get their insights on what we do know - and what we believe. In this riveting conversation he shares insights from every perspective - the questions that arise from the creativity of the universe itself, and the evidence that we inhabit a living, evolving world that is ever changing and interacting with our every thought. He explains, "What we're seeing is the universe really at play; there's a deep creativity and a profound sense of play, that doesn't fit into our equations: doesn't fit into our mechanical laws about what it can and cannot do - it's much more spontaneous, much more creative than that, and we're just seeing the tip of the iceberg. It's really a very profound mystery." His findings will leave you with a renewed awareness of your connection with every tree, each soaring eagle, the silent stars, and the emerging future that awaits you. (hosted by Michael Toms)


Stephan Martin, M.S. has taught astronomy and physics at U.S. colleges for more than twenty years, and is a renowned specialist in extragalactic astronomy and the study of dark matter. He has published articles spanning several disciplines, from observational astronomy to transpersonal psychology and indigenous shamanism.

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Topics Explored in This Dialogue

  • How the universe has defied definition again and again
  • Why theoretical physics is incomplete, if it doesn't take consciousness into account
  • How technology may be separating us from the universe
  • Why dark matter is important, and how it affects us all
  • What evidence we have that evolution may be accelerating dramatically
Host: Michael Toms      Interview Date: 3/18/2010      Program Number: 3349