The Ecology Of Power with Robert Fuller

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What makes power tick and how does it become entrenched and abused? Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely, so the saying goes. What lies beneath power? Understanding the nature of power can help us move towards a world of freedom, justice and economic equity for all. In this dialogue, Robert Fuller points to a hidden form of discrimination that everyone knows but no one sees: discrimination based on rank. (hosted by Michael Toms)


Robert Fuller, Ph.D. is a physicist, former president of Oberlin College, and leader of the dignity movement to overcome rankism. He has consulted with Indira Gandhi, met with Jimmy Carter regarding the President’s Commission on World Hunger, worked in the USSR to defuse the Cold War, and keynoted a Dignity for All conference hosted by the President of Bangladesh. Fuller co-authored the text, Mathematics of Classical and Quantum Physics.

His books on dignity and rankism include:

To learn more about the work of Robert Fuller go to

Topics Explored in This Dialogue

  • How does World War II and the Vietnam War relate to the war on terrorism?
  • How rankism uses power to support a belief system
  • How can we transform the despair and hopelessness of young people around the world?
  • How the "somebody mystique" affects our life and culture
  • How did many people choose to ignore Hitler prior to World War II?
  • How do we halt the abuses of rankism and move towards fairness and justice for all?
Host: Michael Toms       Interview Date: 10/24/2001       Program Number: 2896