The Art Of Leadership with James Autry & Stephen Mitchell

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Drawing on the wisdom of the world's oldest leadership manual, the Tao Te Ching, James Autry and Stephen Mitchell discuss how to transform the workplace. Says Autry, "Where does leadership begin? On the inside. The transition from management--knowing what to do--to leadership--knowing how to be--is a transition from the external to the internal." Effective leadership requires using "real" power--the power you have with people, not over people. Changing our beliefs about power, leadership, loyalty, vision and control is how we begin to create a working environment in which everyone from the CEO on down works together to create a vision, a shared mission--a way to be and work together--that not only achieves the objectives of the organization but makes the world a better place. (hosted by Michael Toms)


Autry is a former Fortune 500 executive, and one of the most popular and influential consultants in the business community.

Mitchell is the translator of the Tao Te Ching, and author of:

  • Genesis: A New Translation of the Classic Biblical Stories (Harper Collins, 1996)

The two are co-authors of:

  • Real Power: Business Lessons from the Tao Te Ching (Riverhead 1998)

Topics Explored in This Dialogue

  • How to create a supportive workplace where ideas flourish
  • The simplest way to bring real power into your place of business
  • What real power is, and where it comes from
  • A brief history of the Tao Te Ching, one of the oldest books ever written
  • Why itís better to focus on the results of employees, not their work habits
  • How "circles of silence" can help achieve success in the business environment
  • Giving up the illusion of control
  • Rethinking the "vision statement"
  • How we get caught up in the symbols of success
Host: Michael Toms       Interview Date: 5/28/1998       Program Number: 2714