Seeking a New Spiritual Ground with Father Matthew Fox, Ph.D.

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"Once we start turning religion into spirituality again, which is how it began, in its healthy versions, the differences often melt," says Fox. His luminous visions of future religion, work and education invoke both ancient wisdom and futuristic technology as ways of expressing the needs and vitality of modern human society. The unorthodoxy of this outspoken Catholic priest earned him dismissal from the Dominican order. Now an ordained Episcopal priest, he continues to speak out about the need for people of all ages and beliefs to seek common ground in genuine spiritual experience. (hosted by Michael Toms)


Father Matthew Fox is a priest and was a member of the Dominican Order of the Catholic Church for thirty-four years. For speaking out on women’s rights, gay rights, and Native American rights, he was silenced for a year and later expelled from the Dominican Order under the papacies of John Paul II and Benedict XVI. He then joined the Episcopal Church to work with young people to create postmodern forms of ritual and worship known as the “Cosmic Mass” that incorporates dance, DJ, VJ, rap, and other postmodern art forms. He is the co-founder of the Order of the Sacred Earth and, since Mother’s day 2019, has offered free daily meditations. He holds a doctorate in History and Theology of Spirituality and is founder of the University of Creation Spirituality.

Dr. Fox is the author of more than thirty books including:

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Topics Explored in This Dialogue

  • Finding joy in your work
  • The future of religious expression
  • Going beyond -isms to find common spiritual ground
  • The vitality of liberation theology and creation spirituality
  • Making church exciting for teenagers and angels
  • A Catholic Mass with electronic images and trance dance
  • How to bring sacredness to troubled social issues
  • Restoring ritual, wonder and fun to education
  • A distinction between spirit and soul
  • Ideas for empowering the young and radically poor

Host: Michael Toms      Interview Date: 7/23/1996      Program Number: 2580