{"product_id":"perseverance-a-daily-choice-in-troubled-times-with-margaret-j-wheatley-edd","title":"Perseverance: A Daily Choice in Troubled Times with Margaret J Wheatley, EdD","description":"\u003ch2\u003eMP3 Download\u003c\/h2\u003e\n\u003cp class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom: .0001pt; line-height: normal;\"\u003e\u003cspan style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; color: black;\"\u003eBorn from a Hopi Nation prophecy urging us to “let go of the shore” and enter the river of change, Wheatley reflects on why persevering through today's grief, exhaustion, and civilizational upheaval is a daily choice rather than a single act of courage. Drawing on Buddhism and other spiritual traditions, she distinguishes \"dwelling mind\" from analytic reasoning, describes how corporations manufacture guilt through greenwashing, and reframes laziness as busyness and avoidance of presence. She speaks movingly about bearing witness to suffering we cannot fix, the sacredness in small moments like a snail crossing a sidewalk, and groundedness as an unshakable faith when we are feeling exhausted and in despair. The conversation closes with Vaclav Havel's definition of hope, not certainty of outcome, but conviction that the work is worth doing. Throughout, she offers companionship, not formulas, for staying awake, and being generous and connected amid profound uncertainty and transformation. \u003ci\u003e(hosted by Justine Willis Toms)\u003c\/i\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom: .0001pt; line-height: normal;\"\u003e\u003cspan style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;\"\u003e \u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003ch2 class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom: .0001pt; line-height: normal;\"\u003e\u003cb style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\"\u003e\u003cspan style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;\"\u003eBio\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/b\u003e\u003c\/h2\u003e\n\u003cp class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom: .0001pt; line-height: normal;\"\u003e\u003cspan style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;\"\u003e \u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom: .0001pt; line-height: normal;\"\u003e\u003cspan style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;\"\u003eMargaret J Wheatley, EdD is an internationally acclaimed writer, speaker, and teacher.\u003cspan\u003e  \u003c\/span\u003eShe began caring about the world's peoples in 1966 as a Peace Corps volunteer in postwar Korea. She is cofounder and President Emerita of The Berkana Institute, a charitable foundation that works with people around the world to strengthen their communities using the wisdom and wealth already present in their people, traditions, and environment. She is a guide in leading people back to understanding who we are as humans, being able to create the conditions for our basic qualities of generosity, contribution, community, and love. She is a grand contributor in creating an Island of Sanity in the midst of wildly disruptive seas.\u003cspan\u003e  \u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom: .0001pt; line-height: normal;\"\u003e\u003cspan style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;\"\u003e \u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom: .0001pt; line-height: normal;\"\u003e\u003ci\u003e\u003cspan style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;\"\u003eMargaret J Wheatley's books include:\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/i\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom: .0001pt; line-height: normal;\"\u003e\u003ci\u003e\u003cspan style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;\"\u003e \u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/i\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: normal;\"\u003e\n\u003ci\u003e\u003cspan style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;\"\u003eLeadership and the New Science\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/i\u003e\u003cspan style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;\"\u003e\u003cspan\u003e  \u003c\/span\u003e(Berrett-Kohler 1998)\u003c\/span\u003e\n\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: normal;\"\u003e\n\u003ci\u003e\u003cspan style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;\"\u003ePerseverance: A Companion for the Journey (revised)\u003cspan\u003e  \u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/i\u003e\u003cspan style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;\"\u003e(Berrett-Kohler 2026) \u003c\/span\u003e\n\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: normal;\"\u003e\n\u003ci\u003e\u003cspan style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;\"\u003eTurning To One Another: Simple Conversations to Restore Hope in the Future \u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/i\u003e\u003cspan style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;\"\u003e(Berrett-Kohler 2009)\u003c\/span\u003e\n\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: normal;\"\u003e\n\u003ci\u003e\u003cspan style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;\"\u003eSo Far from Home: Lost and Found In Our Brave New World \u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/i\u003e\u003cspan style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;\"\u003e(Barrett-Kohler 2012)\u003c\/span\u003e\n\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: normal;\"\u003e\n\u003ci\u003e\u003cspan style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;\"\u003eWho Do We Choose To Be: Facing Reality, Claiming Leadership, Restoring Sanity\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/i\u003e\u003cspan style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;\"\u003e (Berrett-Kohler 2017)\u003c\/span\u003e\n\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: normal;\"\u003e\n\u003ci\u003e\u003cspan style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;\"\u003eRestoring Sanity: Practices to Awaken Generosity, Creativity \u0026amp; Kindness in Ourselves and Our Organizations \u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/i\u003e\u003cspan style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;\"\u003e(Berrett Kohler 2024)\u003c\/span\u003e\n\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: normal;\"\u003e\n\u003ci\u003e\u003cspan style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;\"\u003eOpening to the World As It Is: Poems of Experience\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/i\u003e\u003cspan style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;\"\u003e (Berkana Publications 2024)\u003c\/span\u003e\n\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\u003cp class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom: .0001pt; line-height: normal;\"\u003e\u003cspan style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;\"\u003e \u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom: .0001pt; line-height: normal;\"\u003e\u003cspan style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;\"\u003eTo learn more about the work of Margaret Wheatley go to \u003ca href=\"www.margaretwheatley.com.\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\"\u003ewww.margaretwheatley.com.\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom: .0001pt; line-height: normal;\"\u003e\u003cspan style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;\"\u003e \u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom: .0001pt; line-height: normal;\"\u003e\u003cb\u003e\u003cspan style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;\"\u003eTopics explored in this dialogue include:\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/b\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp class=\"MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst\" style=\"margin-bottom: .0001pt; mso-add-space: auto; text-indent: -.25in; line-height: normal; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1;\"\u003e\u003c!-- [if !supportLists]--\u003e\u003cspan style=\"font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;\"\u003e\u003cspan style=\"mso-list: Ignore;\"\u003e·\u003cspan style=\"font: 7.0pt 'Times New Roman';\"\u003e      \u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: normal;\"\u003e\u003cspan style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;\"\u003ePerseverance as a daily spiritual practice, not a one-time act\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: normal;\"\u003e\u003cspan style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;\"\u003eThe Hopi Nation river prophecy of letting go of the shore\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: normal;\"\u003e\u003cspan style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;\"\u003eDwelling mind versus analytic mind in times of chaos\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: normal;\"\u003e\u003cspan style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;\"\u003eCorporate greenwashing and manufactured guilt over climate change\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: normal;\"\u003e\u003cspan style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;\"\u003eReframing laziness as busyness, distraction, and avoidance\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: normal;\"\u003e\u003cspan style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;\"\u003eBearing witness to suffering we cannot fix\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: normal;\"\u003e\u003cspan style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;\"\u003eGroundedness and faith as a lived experience\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: normal;\"\u003e\u003cspan style=\"font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;\"\u003eHope as commitment to the work, not certainty of outcome\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\u003cp class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom: .0001pt; line-height: normal;\"\u003e\u003cspan style=\"font-family: Arial; 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