No Limits: The Zen Of Creativity with Natalie Goldberg

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Through her wildly successful nationwide writing workshops, Natalie Goldberg has become widely celebrated. Keeping her painting a secret for years, she discovered its importance when she tried giving it up to devote herself to writing. "I cut off a real underground stream of mayhem and joy." An artist with no formal instruction in either writing or painting, Goldberg credits Zen with teaching her "how to paint, how to write and how to be in the world." Being present, paying attention and painting without thoughts, good or bad, create the "freedom to paint the worst painting in America." Discover that there are no limits to your creativity with a woman who inspires us all. (hosted by Michael Toms)


Goldberg is an author as well as a prolific painter. She has been teaching seminars in writing as a practice for over three decades. People from around the world attend her life-changing workshops and she has earned a reputation as a great teacher. She has been featured on The Oprah Winfrey Show for a segment on Spirituality that covered her writing, teaching, painting, and walking meditation. She currently lives in Northern New Mexico. 

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Topics Explored in This Dialogue

  • How to use Zen to paint and write
  • How Goldberg discovered painting, and how it helped her writing
  • Goldberg's thoughts on death and dying
  • Insights about Ernest Hemingway, especially his non-fiction
  • Why there are so many more women writers than painters
  • The practical side of creativity
  • How Goldberg's grandfather influenced her creative life
  • Realizing we can have more than one creative outlet
  • How to fight burn-out using the muse
  • America's fear of art
Host: Michael Toms       Interview Date: 9/23/1997       Program Number: 2662