Full Heart – No Self: Being A Nobody with Robert Fuller

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We all want to "be somebody." But often, those who become somebody become statues, trapped in an identity that doesn't allow them to change or grow. Robert Fuller talks about his own struggle with being a nobody between periods of high recognition and status. He has learned to respect the "nobody" inside himself because "the nobody is actually the creative fellow, while the somebody is just the performer. When you're somebody that seems to become your core identity--but it's not; it's really just a set of clothes you wear for awhile." Fuller broadens the dialogue to encompass the rampant "rankism" in our culture, from politics to working life, to our basic family structure. (hosted by Michael Toms)


Robert Fuller, Ph.D. is a physicist, former president of Oberlin College, and leader of the dignity movement to overcome rankism. He has consulted with Indira Gandhi, met with Jimmy Carter regarding the President’s Commission on World Hunger, worked in the USSR to defuse the Cold War, and keynoted a Dignity for All conference hosted by the President of Bangladesh. Fuller co-authored the text, Mathematics of Classical and Quantum Physics.

His books on dignity and rankism include:

To learn more about the work of Robert Fuller go to www.robertworksfuller.com.

Topics Explored in This Dialogue

  • What it means to be a nobody versus a somebody
  • How to find your passion
  • Our preoccupation with celebrities
  • How you may be abusing yourself without even knowing it
  • Cloaking rankism in the aura of spirituality
  • The main task of the 21st century
Host: Michael Toms      Interview Date: 10/30/1997      Program Number: 2672