Four Keys For Thriving In Chaotic Times with Justine Willis Toms, DHL

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Consciousness is changing for the better. Along with this leap in consciousness there is some amount of chaos. Toms presents four keys to finding and maintaining our true compass, our true direction in the midst of this great turning. She compares this time to that of a caterpillar inside the cocoon where it liquefies as imaginal cells begin to coalesce, soon to emerge as a butterfly. She suggests that “Each one of us are part of that collection of imaginal cells. We are the imaginal cells of the evolving human consciousness.” This is why we must not isolate ourselves. The first key is to get out into the corridors and rub shoulders with life. The second key is to stay curious because it is an antidote to fear. The third key is to remain optimistic because optimism is an antidote to worry. It is not a Pollyanna kind of optimism but a groundedness that keeps us from despair. Keeping this positive attitude helps us to remain in the game even though we may not know the outcome. As they say in AA, “don’t quit before the miracle happens.” And the fourth key is to gather with a circle of friends of the heart, people who support you in your fullness. Join Justine and be infected by her enthusiasm in this dynamic presentation. (hosted by Justine Willis Toms)


Since 1973, Justine Willis Toms has been exploring personal, social and spiritual transformation through her work as an electronic journalist, editor and writer. She is co-founder, executive director and host of New Dimensions Radio. She is a founding convener of The Millionth Circle Initiative and has been actively involved in circle work since 1980. She serves on the board of World Prayers as well as Women’s Perspective. In June 2004, she was one of 30 people in the world invited to participate in The Synthesis Dialogues with his holiness the Dalai Lama. She was inducted into the Broadcasters Hall of Fame in 2011.

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Topics Explored in This Dialogue

  • How the caterpillar becomes a butterfly
  • How we are part of the collection of “imaginal cells” of the new consciousness
  • Why we must not isolate in these threshold times
  • How curiosity can be an antidote to fear
  • Why we must keep working for what is right and good while holding the future loosely
  • How optimism can be an antidote to worry
  • Why we should go on a media fast
  • What is the metaphor of the “Chinese Bamboo”
  • How circles of “Friends of the Heart” help us to bring forth our inner genius

Host: Justine Willis Toms   Interview Date: 6/29/2014   Program Number: 3522

Music Playlist

From Album: Oracle
Artist: Michael Hedges
1996 Windham Hill #CSL 02

Opening Essay: Track 01 The 2nd Law
Music Break 1: Track 05 Jitterboogie
Music Break 2: Track 02 Ignition
Music Break 3: Track 07 Gospel