Courage, Conversation And Changing The World with Margaret J. Wheatley, Ph.D.

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Never before in human history have we been exposed to so much data from so many sources, a veritable deluge. Is it any wonder that people are anxious, cynical, worried, unhappy in their work, and seeking ways to escape? Is there a way out beyond drugs, legal and illegal, or losing ourselves in television, which doesn’t tell visions ever? According to Wheatley, “We have to slow down. Nothing will change for the better until we do. We need time to think, to learn, to get to know each other. We are losing these great human capacities in the speed-up of modern life and it is killing us.” For years, Margaret Wheatley has written eloquently about humanizing our organization and helping people work together more effectively and compassionately. In this engaging and provocative dialogue, she shows how organizations can function more like responsive self-organizing living systems, rather than cold mechanisms of control. Wheatley also expands her ideas into the wider arena of human society. (hosted by Michael Toms)


Margaret Wheatley is an internationally acclaimed writer, speaker, and teacher. She began caring about the world's peoples in 1966 as a Peace Corps volunteer in postwar Korea. She is cofounder and President Emerita of The Berkana Institute, a charitable foundation that works with people around the world to strengthen their communities using the wisdom and wealth already present in their people, traditions, and environment. She is a guide in leading people back to understanding who we are as humans, being able to create the conditions for our basic qualities of generosity, contribution, community, and love. She is a grand contributor in creating an Island of Sanity in the midst of wildly disruptive seas. 

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Topics Explored in This Dialogue

  • What is radical thinking
  • How to start conversations to make a difference
  • How being centered can manifest real change
  • How your languaging may be unconsciously aggressive
  • Why you need to pay attention to what's in front of you
Host: Michael Toms      Interview Date: 3/5/2005      Program Number: 3082