Matter And Consciousness: Shifting The Metaparadigm with Peter Russell, D.C.S.

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Russell explains the difference between a paradigm and a metaparadigm and why consciousness cannot be explained within our current systems. He asserts that science is able to measure phenomena such as energy, time, and space, yet has not found a way to prove or measure consciousness. “These are all concepts in the mind…I am conscious I am having these ideas of energy and matter…it’s the irony that all of science takes place in the mind and yet science ignores the mind.” He asks us to ponder the difference between mind and matter and suggests that the brain, which is matter, does not create consciousness, but provides input into consciousness. Russell describes how all of life has the capacity for consciousness, but distinguishes the ideas of recognition, awareness, and self-awareness. Further, he offers insight into the essence of “I am,” and how our seeking is actually obstructing our natural state of contentment. (hosted by Justine Willis Toms)


Peter Russell, D.C.S. is an author and meditation teacher focusing on consciousness and spirituality. His studies include theoretical physics, mathematics, experimental psychology, and computer science. His principal interest is the deeper, spiritual significance of the times we are passing through. His work seeks to distill the essence of the world’s spiritual traditions and present them in ways relevant to current times. In 1982, with his bestseller of the same name, he coined the term “global brain” and predicted the Internet and the impact it would have on our culture.

Peter’s many books include:

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Topics Explored in This Dialogue

  • What is a paradigm
  • What is a metaparadigm
  • What is the difference between matter and mind
  • Does the brain create consciousness
  • What effect does matter have on consciousness
  • How is recognition different from awareness
  • What is meant by “I Am”
  • What is self-awareness
  • What is the “essence of the universe”
  • What is panpsychism
  • Can physics explain consciousness
  • What is “effortless being”

Host: Justine Willis Toms      Interview Date: 2/10/2015     Program Number: 3537

Music Playlist

From Album: Beautiful Wasteland
Artist: Capercaillie
1998 Survival Records #RCD 10441

Opening Essay: Track 04 Am Mur Gorm (The Blue Rampart)
Music Break 1: Track 01 M'Ionam
Music Break 2: Track 09 Kepplehall
Music Break 3: Track 06 Co Ni Mire Rium