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Original love exists beyond the veils of time and dances outside the confines of space. Parry attunes us to a subtle, ancient longing—an undercurrent of soul calling for reunion and wholeness amid the widening rifts of our age, as magnified by the unbounded reach of the digital web. He unveils the secret: Western time moves like an arrow, whereas Indigenous wisdom traces a circle, an eternal spiral where every place is holy ground and every moment pulses with presence. In this woven dialogue, the myth of Psyche and Eros shimmers forth—here, love and loss are not adversaries but companions on the journey of becoming, echoing the heart’s own rhythms as they mirror the living world. Parry invokes the lost languages of the earth and the moon, urging the return of Indigenous and feminine knowing as a sacred key to healing our sundered reality. When we enter the silent cathedral of the forest or stand bathed in lunar light, we recall the primordial truth: original love is the breath of the cosmos, an indivisible wellspring, enfolding all that is in a single, radiant embrace beyond beginning and end. (hosted by Justine Willis Toms)

Bio

Glenn Aparicio Parry, Ph.D. is an educator, an ecopsychologist, and an author known for integrating indigenous wisdom and holistic thinking into contemporary society. He's the founder and past president of Seed Institute, where he facilitated landmark dialogues between Native American elders and Western scientists. He currently serves as president of The Circle For Original Thinking and host of its weekly podcast.

Glenn Aparicio Parry’s books include:

• Original Thinking: A Radical Revisioning Of Time, Humanity And Nature (North Atlantic Books 2015)
• Original Politics: Making America Sacred Again (SelectBooks 2020)
• Original Love: The Timeless Source Of Wholeness. (SelectBooks 2026)

To learn more about the work of Glenn Aparicio Parry go to www.glennaparicioparry.com

Topics explored in this dialogue include:

• What is the deeper meaning of the concept of original
• What are the three kinds of time: linear, fragmented, circular
• How indigenous wisdom look at original as a place instead of overriding it with time
• What did Dan Moonhark Alford’s father say to him when he first saw the ocean
• What are the many types of love
• How love binds us together and strife separates us
• What is the Seventh Fire Prophecy as spoken by Algonquin Elder, William Commanda
• What is the “mythical” mind of indigenous wisdom
• How does the Greek myth of Psyche and Eros apply to us today
• What are the four labors of love performed by Psyche in the Greek myth
• What is meant by the “overview effect” elicited by photos of the Earth from space
• How grief and loss are a path to wholeness
• How the power of the natural world is available to us with such rituals as forest bathing and moon rituals

Host: Justine Willis Toms    Interview Date: 10/10/2025   Program Number: 3863

Music Playlist

From Album: French Impressions
Artists: Georgia Kelly & Steve Kindler

Opening Essay: Track 03 - Giverny (jiverne)
Music Break: Track 03 - Giverny (jiverne) (continued)